May 25, 1965: Ali vs Liston II

Just how controversial was this particular clash for the heavyweight championship of the world? Let us count the ways. First, there was the fact that its prelude, Clay vs Liston I, had inspired more than its share of controversy all on its own as the defending champ, an overwhelming betting favorite, quit on his stool at the end of round six, this after his corner likely tried to sabotage the bout by putting liniment on Sonny’s gloves which got into Clay’s eyes and rendered the challenger blind for much of round five.

Controversy the first time around: Sonny quits.

Then there was the fact that the boxer who defeated the seemingly unbeatable Liston in February of ’64 had since become one of the most maligned, divisive and, yes, controversial figures in all of America. After winning the heavyweight title, Cassius Clay announced his allegiance to the Black Muslim cult and its leader, Elijah Muhammad, before changing his name to Muhammad Ali.

After much contractual wrangling stemming from the fact that an immediate rematch only added to the suspicions swirling around the first bout, a return was eventually set for November in Boston. But just days before the match, Ali suffered a hernia which necessitated surgery. In the meantime, a bitter and public quarrel was unfolding between the leader of the Black Muslims and prominent former follower Malcolm X, one which forced the new champion to choose sides. Ali remained loyal to leader Elijah and on February 21, 1965, Malcolm X was assassinated. Speculation ensued that Ali would be the target of retaliation, a threat taken seriously enough that the FBI elected to guard Ali around the clock with a squad of armed officers.

Organizers of the rematch settled on the unlikely locale of Lewiston, Maine, but the fight itself only led to more controversy. The atmosphere of tension and violence surrounding the event was blamed for a paltry crowd of some 2500 fans at Maine’s first (and last) heavyweight championship match, and when Liston collapsed midway through round one, almost no one saw the blow that put him there; the clout that decided the contest would soon come to be known as “The Phantom Punch.”

Ali vs Liston

With Liston on the canvas, Ali shouted at him to rise before circling the ring in a manic victory dance. Referee Jersey Joe Walcott, preoccupied with trying to corral Ali, failed to communicate with the timekeeper and thus never administered a count. A seemingly disoriented Liston climbed to his knees but then collapsed again, before eventually getting to his feet and attempting to resume the fight. Walcott was then informed that Liston had indeed been on the canvas for more than ten seconds and he finally halted the match and declared Ali the winner.

Ever since theories have abounded as to what exactly transpired. Films show that Ali did connect with a chopping counter right hand to the side of Liston’s head — he later dubbed it his “Anchor Punch” — and the challenger then toppled forward before rolling onto his back. But while a punch did land and appeared to precipitate a flash knockdown, the blow hardly seemed powerful enough to incapacitate the durable Liston. Indeed, Sonny later stated to more than one writer that the reason he didn’t get to his feet was because 1. Ali was hovering over him, and 2. he didn’t hear a count. But his swooning after getting to his knees suggests that either he was legitimately dazed and confused, or he decided “To hell with it” and quit.

Ali vs Liston

Some speculated Liston wanted an early exit for fear of being killed by an errant bullet if a follower of Malcolm X tried to assassinate Ali. Others concluded the fight had to be fixed, though it’s difficult to imagine a more clumsy way to execute a dive. And if that was Liston’s intention, why would he get up and then try to resume fighting? To this day some believe Liston, an ex-con and former mob enforcer, threw both fights with Ali, though hard evidence to bolster that idea has never surfaced. The bottom line is the mysterious and bizarre Ali vs Liston rematch has never not been controversial in all the years since, and it will forever stand as a surreal episode of infinite weirdness, indeed, the most controversial match in the long history of the prize ring.

The bottom line is we will never know for certain the true story of Ali vs Liston II. But if many feel they are on solid ground when they assert that there’s no way that the seemingly innocuous “Phantom Punch” could have upset the tough Liston’s equilibrium, I feel equally confident in stating that this bizarre fight is not so much about a boxer executing a dive, as it is about an aging pugilist, intimidated by the daunting task of facing an opponent who had already inflicted a humbling and painful defeat, finding himself on the canvas and deciding he was done for the night.               — Robert Portis  

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18 thoughts on “May 25, 1965: Ali vs Liston II

  • May 28, 2021 at 5:46 pm
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    Robert Portis, I think that you are, in the final analysis, correct. Everyone has their theories about the two fights, and while I have some information about Ali-Liston that isn’t generally known, I think Liston quit in both fights.

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    • August 14, 2021 at 4:04 pm
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      He did not quit; he was forced to quit. I’m an expert on Sonny Liston and am presently writing a book.

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      • January 23, 2022 at 10:11 pm
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        How far are you with your book? I can proofread it if need be.

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      • March 30, 2024 at 10:07 am
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        I had an odd find at Goodwill yesterday. In a stack of same period reel to reel tapes is one labeled:
        “Clay Liston 65 fight”
        I have not yet listened to it, but it is almost certainly a live home recording of the event. Obviously, it is almost impossible to find a comparable piece of memorabilia. My player is of low quality, so I hesitate to play it, although I’m uncertain what risk that might pose or even if there’s any significant value to the recording. I’ll likely be trying to find a fair value and passing it on to a boxing fan. Any thoughts on its significance or value? I can easily be reached at my FB group, “Colorado Laserdisc & Retro”.

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    • June 1, 2022 at 8:21 pm
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      QUITTING WHILE SITTING ON HIS STOOL..in Miami in Feb.’64…then taking a DIVE in the second “fight” up in Maine in May ’65. Writer Robert Lipsyte said, “As Heavyweight Champion Of The World,…you’re supposed to die trying…Liston didn’t do that…he just SAT there…Pathetic!!!

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    • July 13, 2022 at 10:47 am
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      He did. A pathetic display!

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    • May 26, 2024 at 11:55 am
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      Of course he did…I’ve seen better “acting” in the WWF…

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  • May 31, 2021 at 5:02 pm
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    Liston falls flat on his back, then takes a knee, and falls again. He was acting the part of victim, but never expected the ref to not even start a count, which made it all look much worse as a short right hand like that was not going to stop Sonny Liston. Ali knew it, and said so. “He laid down,” he told his handlers. What a stinker. Ali’s legacy survived the two fight controversy, as he was blessed with so much talent and he outclassed so many good fighters.

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    • February 14, 2023 at 9:51 pm
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      That’s exactly right.after Ali solidified the championship it was obvious that anyone who stepped into the ring with him was in for a beating and humiliation.He changed the sport.no heavyweight had ever shown the splendour and hand speed or the stamina that Ali possessed.He not only changed the sport he changed the world.A fantastic athlete and a man of conviction who could talk the talk and walk the walk.

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  • January 10, 2022 at 6:18 pm
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    Sports Columnist Edwin Pope once described Sonny Liston as, “… an absolute thug.” Aside from that, Liston was a bully and like all bullies he was a coward. Cassius Clay stood up to Sonny Liston in Miami, Florida and Liston quit in his corner. He had no response to the punching speed and accuracy of the younger Cassius Clay. Even Liston’s cornermen were surprised at his quitting in his corner.

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    • June 1, 2022 at 8:24 pm
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      And this is the fighter who would destroy Marciano?….Joe Louis?…Jack Dempsey? Marciano beats Liston on heart alone! Rocky went thru more pain in 2 of his title fights than most go thru in a whole career…no QUIT in Rocky Marciano!

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  • May 30, 2023 at 11:59 am
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    Liston’s career record was 50-4, 39 by knockouts. Give me a break. One of the greatest fighters ever. His arm was hurt during his first match with Ali. He would be viewed very differently today.

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  • July 16, 2023 at 6:38 pm
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    The champ Muhammad Ali was called the greatest for a reason. No other fighter ever won his title back three times in history. Already took on all comers for over 10 years and lost three years of his prime in prison. I remember Rocky Marciano and Joe Louis as I’m past 70 now. Ali, he beat them all.

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    • August 14, 2023 at 3:36 pm
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      They never fought. How could u say that. Will never know.

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    • June 5, 2024 at 2:41 am
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      Ali never went to prison. He was banned from boxing for 3 1/2 years. The Supreme Court overturned his conviction, but only after it had voted 5-3 to uphold it. The reversal makes for an interesting story.

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  • October 27, 2023 at 10:02 am
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    Liston clearly threw the fight. Why? Who knows. Was he going to lose if he didn’t throw the fight? I think so. But let’s stop the nonsense on IF he threw the fight. Look at the film. The camera doesn’t lie

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    • December 2, 2023 at 6:40 pm
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      Absolutely true. Couldn’t be more clearly stated.

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  • September 9, 2024 at 9:51 am
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    I am always amused by the accounts of the first Ali-Liston fight. Many “experts” make it sound like it was a dominant blowout. It was anything but. Ali had a slight lead on the scorecards and, while cutting Liston and backing him up at one point, the result was hardly a foregone conclusion until Liston quit. I was always suspicious of Ali’s thumbs in the Liston I and Terrell fights. Ali had a tendency to slap his jab and there is one famous picture of Ali’s thumb clearly separated from his clenched fight landing on Sonny’s face in the first Liston fight. It was also curious how Ernie Terrell fell apart after the 4th round against Ali. Terrell claimed vehemently that he’d been thumbed.

    As for the 2nd Liston fight, there is one piece of undeniable evidence from Ali himself that Liston took a dive:

    “Get up, you bum, nobody’s gonna believe this!” Ali was heard to shout as he hovered over Liston after Sonny took his swan dive. Nothing else needs to be said.

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